还是现在反过来了?

据我所知,c#在某些领域被证明比c++更快,但我从来没有勇气亲自测试它。

我想你们任何人都可以详细解释这些差异,或者告诉我有关信息的正确位置。


当前回答

没有严格的理由说明为什么基于字节码的语言(如c#或Java)不能像c++代码一样快。然而,c++代码在很长一段时间内都要快得多,今天在许多情况下仍然如此。这主要是因为更高级的JIT优化实现起来比较复杂,而真正酷的JIT优化现在才出现。

所以在很多情况下,c++更快。但这只是答案的一部分。c++实际上更快的情况是高度优化的程序,其中专业程序员彻底优化了代码。这不仅非常耗时(因此非常昂贵),而且由于过度优化通常会导致错误。

On the other hand, code in interpreted languages gets faster in later versions of the runtime (.NET CLR or Java VM), without you doing anything. And there are a lot of useful optimizations JIT compilers can do that are simply impossible in languages with pointers. Also, some argue that garbage collection should generally be as fast or faster as manual memory management, and in many cases it is. You can generally implement and achieve all of this in C++ or C, but it's going to be much more complicated and error prone.

As Donald Knuth said, "premature optimization is the root of all evil". If you really know for sure that your application will mostly consist of very performance critical arithmetic, and that it will be the bottleneck, and it's certainly going to be faster in C++, and you're sure that C++ won't conflict with your other requirements, go for C++. In any other case, concentrate on first implementing your application correctly in whatever language suits you best, then find performance bottlenecks if it runs too slow, and then think about how to optimize the code. In the worst case, you might need to call out to C code through a foreign function interface, so you'll still have the ability to write critical parts in lower level language.

请记住,优化一个正确的程序相对容易,但更正一个优化的程序要难得多。

给出实际的速度优势百分比是不可能的,这在很大程度上取决于你的代码。在许多情况下,编程语言实现甚至不是瓶颈。请带着极大的怀疑态度使用http://benchmarksgame.alioth.debian.org/上的基准测试,因为这些测试的主要是算术代码,很可能与您的代码完全不同。

其他回答

c++(或C)为您提供了对数据结构的细粒度控制。如果你想玩,你有这个选择。大型托管Java或。net应用程序(OWB, Visual Studio 2005),它们使用Java/。NET库自带包袱。我曾见过OWB设计会话使用超过400 MB的RAM,立方体或ETL设计的bid也达到100 MB。

在可预测的工作负载上(例如重复一个过程多次的大多数基准测试),JIT可以为您提供优化得足够好的代码,没有实际差别。

在大型应用程序上,差异与其说是JIT,不如说是代码本身使用的数据结构。当应用程序的内存很重时,您将获得较低的缓存使用效率。在现代cpu上,缓存丢失是非常昂贵的。C或c++的真正优势在于,您可以优化数据结构的使用,从而更好地使用CPU缓存。

据我所知…

你的困难似乎在于决定你所听到的是否可信,当你试图评估这个网站上的回复时,这个困难将会重复。

你将如何判断人们在这里所说的比你最初听到的更可信还是更不可信?

一种方法是要求提供证据。

当有人声称“在某些领域c#被证明比c++快”时,问他们为什么这么说,让他们给你看测量结果,让他们给你看程序。有时他们只是犯了一个错误。有时你会发现他们只是在表达一种观点,而不是分享一些他们可以证明是正确的事情。

通常情况下,信息和观点会混淆在人们的说法中,你必须试着分清哪个是哪个。例如,从这个论坛的回复中:

"Take the benchmarks at http://shootout.alioth.debian.org/ with a great deal of scepticism, as these largely test arithmetic code, which is most likely not similar to your code at all." Ask yourself if you really understand what "these largely test arithmetic code" means, and then ask yourself if the author has actually shown you that his claim is true. "That's a rather useless test, since it really depends on how well the individual programs have been optimized; I've managed to speed up some of them by 4-6 times or more, making it clear that the comparison between unoptimized programs is rather silly." Ask yourself whether the author has actually shown you that he's managed to "speed up some of them by 4-6 times or more" - it's an easy claim to make!

在一个特殊的场景中,c++仍然占据上风(并且将在未来几年占据上风),即可以在编译时预先确定多态决策。

通常,封装和延迟决策是一件好事,因为它使代码更加动态,更容易适应不断变化的需求,并且更容易作为框架使用。这就是为什么在c#中面向对象编程是非常高效的,并且它可以在术语“泛化”下泛化。不幸的是,这种特殊的泛化在运行时是有代价的。

Usually, this cost is non-substantial but there are applications where the overhead of virtual method calls and object creation can make a difference (especially since virtual methods prevent other optimizations such as method call inlining). This is where C++ has a huge advantage because you can use templates to achieve a different kind of generalization which has no impact on runtime but isn't necessarily any less polymorphic than OOP. In fact, all of the mechanisms that constitute OOP can be modelled using only template techniques and compile-time resolution.

在这种情况下(不可否认,它们通常局限于特殊的问题领域),c++胜过c#和类似的语言。

对于图形来说,标准的c#图形类比通过C/ c++访问的GDI慢得多。 我知道这与语言本身无关,更多的是与整个。net平台有关,但是图形是作为GDI替代品提供给开发人员的,它的性能非常糟糕,我甚至不敢用它来处理图形。

我们有一个简单的基准来查看图形库的速度,那就是在窗口中随机绘制线条。c++ /GDI在处理10000行代码时仍然很灵活,而c# /Graphics在处理1000行代码时却很难做到。

I suppose there are applications written in C# running fast, as well as there are more C++ written apps running fast (well C++ just older... and take UNIX too...) - the question indeed is - what is that thing, users and developers are complaining about ... Well, IMHO, in case of C# we have very comfort UI, very nice hierarchy of libraries, and whole interface system of CLI. In case of C++ we have templates, ATL, COM, MFC and whole shebang of alreadyc written and running code like OpenGL, DirectX and so on... Developers complains of indeterminably risen GC calls in case of C# (means program runs fast, and in one second - bang! it's stuck). To write code in C# very simple and fast (not to forget that also increase chance of errors. In case of C++, developers complains of memory leaks, - means crushes, calls between DLLs, as well as of "DLL hell" - problem with support and replacement libraries by newer ones... I think more skill you'll have in the programming language, the more quality (and speed) will characterize your software.