在另一个问题中,Mark高度评价了ide,说“有些人仍然不知道”为什么“他们应该使用一个……”。作为一个使用vim进行编程的人,并且在大多数/所有同事都使用vim或emacs进行所有工作的环境中工作的人,ide的优势是什么?我为什么要用它?

我相信这对一些人来说是一个棘手的问题,我对开始一场论战不感兴趣,所以请只回复你认为基于ide的方法更好的原因。我对听到为什么我不应该使用IDE不感兴趣;我已经不用了。可以这么说,我感兴趣的是听取“栅栏的另一边”的意见。

如果您认为ide可能适合某些类型的工作,但不适合其他类型的工作,我也很想知道为什么。


当前回答

不要认为这是排他性的。使用IDE来获得它所提供的好处,当需要集中精力时切换到vim/首选的文本编辑器。

我发现IDE更适合重构、浏览、调试以及找出要做的事情。然后在IDE中完成小的事情,大的事情我切换到vim来完成。

其他回答

除了其他答案之外,我喜欢使用类似于Eclipse的ViPlugin之类的东西,将IDE的开发能力与Vim的编辑能力结合起来。

作为你在你的问题中强调的回答的作者,并且承认这一点有点晚了,我不得不说,在列出的许多原因中,专业开发人员的生产力是最受重视的技能之一。

我所说的生产力是指高效地完成工作并取得最佳结果的能力。ide在许多级别上都支持这一点。我不是Emacs专家,但我怀疑它缺乏主要ide的任何特性。

设计、文档编制、跟踪、开发、构建、分析、部署和维护,这些企业应用程序中的关键步骤都可以在IDE中完成。

如果你有选择,为什么不用这么强大的东西呢?

作为实验,让自己使用一个IDE 30天,然后看看感觉如何。我很想听听你对这次经历的看法。

IDE可能是一个“优越”的选择,这取决于开发人员试图实现的目标。

文本编辑器可能更“优越”,因为ide通常面向一种(或一小部分)语言。

如果一个开发人员大部分时间都在单一语言或相关语言的“集群”(如c#和T-SQL)上,在一个操作系统中,那么一个好的IDE所提供的GUI设计、调试、智能感知、重构等工具就会非常引人注目。例如,如果你大部分时间都在VB上工作。NET,在Windows环境中可能偶尔会用到一点T-SQL,那么如果你不考虑Visual Studio或类似的IDE,那就太愚蠢了。

我对那些喜欢ide或文本编辑器的人没有偏见,如果学得好,两者都可以非常有效和有用!

我从相反的方向来回答这个问题。我从小就在Makefile+Emacs的环境中编程。从我最早的DOS编译器,微软的Quick C,我有一个IDE自动化的事情。我在Visual c++ 6.0上工作了很多年,当我毕业到Enterprise Java时,我使用Borland JBuilder,然后决定使用Eclipse,这对我来说已经变得非常高效。

Throughout my initial self-teaching, college, and now professional career, I have come to learn that any major software development done solely within the IDE becomes counterproductive. I say this because most IDE's wants you to work in their peculiar I-control-how-the-world-works style. You have to slice and dice your projects along their lines. You have manage your project builds using their odd dialog boxes. Most IDE's manage complex build dependencies between projects poorly, and dependencies can be difficult to get working 100%. I have been in situations where IDE's would not produce a working build of my code unless I did a Clean/Rebuild All. Finally, there's rarely a clean way to move your software out of development and into other environments like QA or Production from an IDE. It's usually a clicky fest to get all your deployment units built, or you've got some awkward tool that the IDE vendor gives you to bundle stuff up. But again, that tool usually demands that your project and build structure absolutely conforms to their rules - and sometimes that just won't work for your projects' requirements.

我了解到,要与团队一起进行大规模开发,如果我们使用IDE开发代码,并使用手动编写的命令行脚本进行所有构建,那么我们可以获得最高的效率。(我们喜欢用Apache Ant进行Java开发。)我们发现在IDE中运行我们的脚本对于复杂的构建来说只是一个点击或者自动化的噩梦,用alt+tab到一个shell并在那里运行脚本要容易得多(而且破坏性更小)。

Manual builds requires us to miss out on some of the niceties in the modern IDE like background compilation, but what we gain is much more critical: clean and easy builds that can live in multiple environments. The "one click build" all those agile guys talk about? We have it. Our build scripts can be directly invoked by continuous integration systems as well. Having builds managed through continuous integration allows us to more formally stage and migrate your code deployments to different environments, and lets us know almost immediately when someone checks in bad code that breaks the build or unit tests.

In truth, my taking the role of build away from the IDE hasn't hurt us too badly. The intellisense and refactoring tools in Eclipse are still completely useful and valid - the background compilation simply serves to support those tools. And, Eclipse's peculiar slicing of projects has served as a very nice way to mentally break down our problem sets in a way everyone can understand (still a tad bit verbose for my tastes though). I think one of the most important things about Eclipse is the excellent SCM integrations, that's what makes team development so enjoyable. We use Subversion+Eclipse, and that has been very productive and very easy to train our people to become experts at.

节省开发时间 通过提供集成调试、智能感知等功能,使生活更轻松。

有很多,但我会建议使用一个,他们比明显。