在HTML中,表格不应该用于布局,这似乎是普遍的观点。

Why?

我从来没有(老实说,很少)看到过支持这一点的有力论据。通常的答案是:

It's good to separate content from layoutBut this is a fallacious argument; Cliche Thinking. I guess it's true that using the table element for layout has little to do with tabular data. So what? Does my boss care? Do my users care?Perhaps me or my fellow developers who have to maintain a web page care... Is a table less maintainable? I think using a table is easier than using divs and CSS.By the way... why is using a div or a span good separation of content from layout and a table not? Getting a good layout with only divs often requires a lot of nested divs. Readability of the codeI think it's the other way around. Most people understand HTML, few understand CSS. It's better for SEO not to use tablesWhy? Can anybody show some evidence that it is? Or a statement from Google that tables are discouraged from an SEO perspective? Tables are slower.An extra tbody element has to be inserted. This is peanuts for modern web browsers. Show me some benchmarks where the use of a table significantly slows down a page. A layout overhaul is easier without tables, see css Zen Garden.Most web sites that need an upgrade need new content (HTML) as well. Scenarios where a new version of a web site only needs a new CSS file are not very likely. Zen Garden is a nice web site, but a bit theoretical. Not to mention its misuse of CSS.

我对使用divs + CSS而不是表的良好参数非常感兴趣。


当前回答

CSS/DIV - it's just jobs for the design boys, isn't it. The hundreds of hours I've spent debugging DIV/CSS issues, searching the Internet to get some part of markup working with an obscure browser - it drives me mad. You make one little change and the whole layout goes horrendously wrong - where on eath is the logic in that. Spending hours moving something 3 pixels this way then something else 2 pixels the other to get them all to line up. This just seems plain wrong to me somehow. Just because you're a purist and something is "not the right thing to do" doesn't mean you should make use of it to the nth degree and under all circumstances, especially if it makes your life 1000 times easier.

So I've finally decided, purely on commercial grounds, although I keep use to minimum, if I anticipate 20 hours work to get a DIV placed correctly, I'll stick in a table. It's wrong, it upsets the purists, but in most cases it costs less time and is cheaper to manage. I can then concentrate on getting the application working as the customer wants, rather than pleasing the purists. They do pay the bills after all and my argument to a manager enforcing the use of CSS/DIV - I would merely point out the customers pay his salary as well!

所有这些CSS/DIV争论出现的唯一原因是因为CSS的缺点,首先是因为浏览器之间不兼容,如果它们相互兼容,世界上一半的网页设计师将失业。

When you design a windows form you don't try moving controls around after you have laid them out so I kind of think it's strange to me why you would you want to do this with a web form. I simply can't understand this logic. Get the layout right to start with and what's the problem. I think it's because designers like to flirt with creativity, whilst application developers are more concerned with actually getting the application working, creating business objects, implementing business rules, working out how bits of customer data relates to each other, ensuring the thing meets the customers requirements - you know - like the real world stuff.

不要误解我的意思,这两种观点都是正确的,但是请不要因为开发人员选择了一种更简单、更合乎逻辑的方式来设计表单而批评他们。我们常常有比正确使用表而不是div的语义更重要的事情要担心。

在这个讨论的基础上,我将一些现有的tds和trs转换为div。花了45分钟把它弄得乱七八糟想把所有东西都排列整齐然后我就放弃了。td在10秒后回来-工作-立即-在所有浏览器上,没有更多的事情要做。请试着让我明白——你有什么理由让我用其他方式做这件事!

其他回答

Layout should be easy. The fact that there are articles written on how to achieve a dynamic three column layout with header and footer in CSS shows that it is a poor layout system. Of course you can get it to work, but there are literally hundreds of articles online about how to do it. There are pretty much no such articles for a similar layout with tables because it's patently obvious. No matter what you say against tables and in favor of CSS, this one fact undoes it all: a basic three column layout in CSS is often called "The Holy Grail".

如果这不能让你说“WTF”,那么你现在真的需要放下酷爱饮料了。

我喜欢CSS。它提供了惊人的样式选项和一些很酷的定位工具,但作为一个布局引擎,它是有缺陷的。需要某种类型的动态网格定位系统。一个直接的方法来对齐多个轴上的盒子,而不知道他们的大小。我不在乎你叫它<table>或<gridlayout>或其他什么,但这是CSS中缺少的一个基本布局特性。

更大的问题是,由于不承认有缺失的特性,CSS狂热者一直在阻碍CSS的发展。如果CSS能像世界上其他布局引擎一样提供像样的多轴网格定位,我很乐意停止使用表格。(你应该意识到这个问题已经被除了W3C之外的所有人用多种语言解决过很多次了,对吧?没有人否认这样一个功能是有用的。)

叹息。足够的通风。去吧,把头埋进沙子里。

I have found that even with the best planning divs come up short in several respects. For instance. there is no way with divs to have a bottom bar that always sits at the bottom of the browser, even when the rest of the content does not go to the bottom of the browser. Also, you cannot elegantly do anything better than three columns, and you cannot have columns that grow and shrink according the the width of their content. In the end, we try to use divs first. However, we will not limit our html designs based on some religious content vs layout ideal.

看起来你只是习惯了桌子,仅此而已。 将布局放在表格中会限制你的布局。用CSS你可以移动位,看看http://csszengarden.com/ 不,布局通常不需要很多嵌套的div。

没有表格的布局和适当的语义HTML更干净,因此更容易阅读。 为什么不理解CSS的人要尝试阅读它呢?如果有人认为自己是web开发人员,那么对CSS的良好掌握是必须的。

SEO的好处来自于将最重要的内容放在页面上方的能力 拥有更好的内容与标记比率。

http://www.hotdesign.com/seybold/

根据508法规(对于视障屏幕阅读器),表格应该只用于保存数据,而不是用于布局,因为它会导致屏幕阅读器崩溃。至少别人是这么告诉我的。

如果您为每个div分配名称,您也可以使用CSS将它们一起蒙皮。只是让他们坐成你想要的样子有点麻烦。

有必要弄清楚CSS和div,以便在页面布局中,中央内容列在侧栏之前加载和呈现。但是,如果你正在努力使用浮动div来垂直对齐一个logo和一些赞助文本,那就使用这个表格,继续生活吧。禅宗花园宗教并没有带来多少价值。

将内容与表示分开的思想是对应用程序进行分区,以便不同类型的工作影响不同的代码块。这实际上是关于变更管理的。但是编码标准只能以表面的方式检查代码的当前状态。

应用程序的更改日志依赖于编码标准来“将内容与表示分开”,它将显示跨垂直竖井的并行更改模式。如果对“内容”的更改总是伴随着对“表示”的更改,那么分区的成功程度如何?

如果您真的想高效地划分代码,请使用Subversion并检查更改日志。然后使用最简单的编码技术——divs、表、JavaScript、include、函数、对象、延续等等——来构建应用程序,以便以简单和舒适的方式进行更改。