这个问题来自于对过去50年左右计算领域各种进展的评论。

其他一些与会者请我把这个问题作为一个问题向整个论坛提出。

这里的基本思想不是抨击事物的现状,而是试图理解提出基本新思想和原则的过程。

我认为我们在大多数计算领域都需要真正的新想法,我想知道最近已经完成的任何重要而有力的想法。如果我们真的找不到他们,那么我们应该问“为什么?”和“我们应该做什么?”


当前回答

移动电话。

第一个“无线手机”专利诞生于1908年,并且酝酿了很长一段时间(0G于1945年,1G于1979年在日本推出),而现代2G数字手机直到1991年才出现。1993年才出现短信,1999年才出现互联网接入。

其他回答

我认为,在1980年,如果你在使用一台电脑,你要么是在赚钱,要么就是一个极客……那么发生了什么变化呢?

Printers and consumer-level desktop publishing. Meant you didn't need a printing press to make high-volume, high-quality printed material. That was big - of course, nowadays we completely take it for granted, and mostly we don't even bother with the printing part because everyone's online anyway. Colour. Seriously. Colour screens made a huge difference to non-geeks' perception of games & applications. Suddenly games seemed less like hard work and more like watching TV, which opened the doors for Sega, Nintendo, Atari et al to bring consumer gaming into the home. Media compression (MP3s and video files). And a whole bunch of things - like TiVO and iPods - that we don't really think of as computers any more because they're so ubiquitous and so user-friendly. But they are.

我认为,这里的共同点是曾经不可能的事情(制作打印文档;准确再现彩色图像;实时向世界各地发送消息;分发音频和视频材料),当时因为设备和物流成本昂贵,现在是消费者水平。那么,大公司现在在做什么过去是不可能的,但如果我们能想出如何做小而便宜的事情,可能会很酷?

任何涉及物理运输的东西都是有趣的。视频会议(目前)还没有取代真实的会议,但如果技术合适,它仍有可能取代真实的会议。一些休闲旅行可以被全感官沉浸式环境所取代——家庭影院就是一个微不足道的例子;另一个是位于Soho区一栋写字楼内的“虚拟高尔夫球场”,在这里,你可以在模拟球场上打18洞真正的高尔夫球。

不过,对我来说,下一个真正重要的事情将是制造。做的事情。勺子,吉他,椅子,衣服,汽车,瓷砖什么的。这些仍然依赖于生产和分销基础设施。我再也不用去商店买电影或专辑了——什么时候我就不用去商店买衣服和厨具了?

Sure, there are interesting developments going on with OLED displays and GPS and mobile broadband and IoC containers and scripting and "the cloud" - but it's all still just new-fangled ways of putting pictures on a screen. I can print my own photos and write my own web pages, but I want to be able to fabricate a linen basket that fits exactly into that nook beside my desk, and a mounting bracket for sticking my guitar FX unit to my desk, and something for clipping my cellphone to my bike handlebars.

与编程无关?不…但在1980年,声音制作也不是。或者视频分发。或者给赞比亚的亲戚发信息。大处着眼,伙计们……:)

用于人机交互的触摸屏和体感界面。

例如:

pda、iPhone或任天堂DS的触屏 运动感应,任天堂Wii控制器或(在较小程度上)Playstation 3的SixAxis控制器。

唯一的问题是…这些技术真的是80后吗?

几乎是现代3D计算机图形学中所有重要的东西。射线追踪(在计算图形意义上)是从Whitted 1980年的论文开始的。行军立方体('87)是从3D数据中提取等值面的标准方法。

如果我们作为一个团体认真地回答这个问题。 不幸的是,我相信我们需要的不仅仅是一串随机的善意的帖子! 我知道,这听起来很无聊,但经常把事情做完才是!

We Write a list of powerful ideas in the area of computing Maybe we should define a few categories to separate each one because videoconference somehow does not fit well with object oriented programming. Seeing ideas by categories makes it easier to generate them without redundancy. It's too easy to sidetrack in teleportation if quantum computing is not kept away from flying cars. Try to attribute each of them a date This will settle the before/after 1980 and restrict debate about each idea to its own. It will be fun to dig for earliest reference, first known implementation, etc. Plus this will allow people like me who were 2 years old in 1980 to have a better idea of what was common programming knowledge in 1980 (nothing beats being there at the time) Try to attribute each of them the current state of their implementation Ok, some idea were sci-fi in 1850, with early development in the 1970 and serious improvement breakthrough in the 1990. Some ideas are just starting to get around. Some are almost forgotten. Probably the wiki thing is a good idea. I think this could really get somewhere if slightly organized. I did not check, but maybe this whole thing already exist already on the net (I usually find that if you think about something, someone already did it). What do you think ? Cheers !

DNS, 1983年,以及依赖的进步,如通过MX记录而不是刘海路径来解析电子邮件主机。*不寒而栗*

Zeroconf工作在DNS之上,2000年。我把我的打印机插入网络,我的笔记本电脑看到了它。我在网络上启动了一个web服务器,我的浏览器看到了它。(假设他们广播了他们的可用性。)

NTP(1985)基于Marzullo算法(1984)。精确的时间在紧张的网络。

鼠标滚轮,1995年。使用没有它的鼠标感觉太原始了。不,这不是恩格尔巴特团队想过却忘了提的东西。至少当我问当时团队里的人时没有。(那是1998年左右在恩格尔巴特的一次活动上。我要对付第一批老鼠中的一只。)

1987年的Unicode,以及它在不同类型的编码、规范化、双向文本等方面的相关进展。

是的,人们每天使用这5种方法是很常见的。

这些真的是“新想法”吗?毕竟,有了鼠标,有了字符编码,有了网络计时。告诉我如何区分“新”和“真正的新”,我会回答你的问题。我的直觉告诉我这些足够新了。

在较小的领域,很容易有更近期的进展。例如,在生物信息学领域,Smith-Waterman(1981)和BLAST(1990)有效地使该领域成为可能。但这听起来像是你在要求在整个计算领域中非常广泛的想法,而且容易摘到的水果会被先摘。在一个新的领域总是如此。