在HTML中,表格不应该用于布局,这似乎是普遍的观点。

Why?

我从来没有(老实说,很少)看到过支持这一点的有力论据。通常的答案是:

It's good to separate content from layoutBut this is a fallacious argument; Cliche Thinking. I guess it's true that using the table element for layout has little to do with tabular data. So what? Does my boss care? Do my users care?Perhaps me or my fellow developers who have to maintain a web page care... Is a table less maintainable? I think using a table is easier than using divs and CSS.By the way... why is using a div or a span good separation of content from layout and a table not? Getting a good layout with only divs often requires a lot of nested divs. Readability of the codeI think it's the other way around. Most people understand HTML, few understand CSS. It's better for SEO not to use tablesWhy? Can anybody show some evidence that it is? Or a statement from Google that tables are discouraged from an SEO perspective? Tables are slower.An extra tbody element has to be inserted. This is peanuts for modern web browsers. Show me some benchmarks where the use of a table significantly slows down a page. A layout overhaul is easier without tables, see css Zen Garden.Most web sites that need an upgrade need new content (HTML) as well. Scenarios where a new version of a web site only needs a new CSS file are not very likely. Zen Garden is a nice web site, but a bit theoretical. Not to mention its misuse of CSS.

我对使用divs + CSS而不是表的良好参数非常感兴趣。


当前回答

我想这事已经过去了。如果你看看行业的发展方向,你会发现CSS和开放标准是这场讨论的赢家。这反过来意味着对于大多数html工作,除了表单,设计师将使用div而不是表格。我很难做到这一点,因为我不是CSS专家,但事实就是这样。

其他回答

WYSIWYG!!! I can't for the life of me get our designers to stop using nested DIVS and styled by elementID css in templates that are supposed to be used by clients in CMS projects. That's the whole point of a WYSIWYG online editor. You are controlling both the content and the layout at the same time! There is no separation at all in the first place in this scenario. Positioned and styled Divs in some external stylesheet are anathema to the whole idea of WYSIWYG editing. Tables can be seen, rows inserted, cells combined and so on. Good luck trying this with divs in a way that doesn't frustrate users.

根据我对表的了解,如果嵌套了太多的表,在呈现页面时浏览器会有很大的开销。

1 -浏览器必须等待呈现最终视图,直到整个表被加载。

2 - The algorithm to render the table is expensive and is not in a single go. The browser, as and when, gets the contents, will try to render calculating the content width and height. So, if you are having nested tables, say, the browser has received the first row and the 1st cell is having large amount of content and width and height not defined, it will calculate the width and will render the first row, In the mean while it gets the 2nd row will cell#2 having loads of content! It will now calculate the width for 2nd row cells.. What about the first ? It will calculate widths recursively. That's bad at client side. (To site an example) As a programmer, you'll optimize stuffs such as time to fetch data, optimized data structures and etc. You optimize things to complete on server side, say in2 secs, but end user in getting the final view in 8 secs. What is wrong here ? 1. May be network is slow! What if network is fine ? What is network is delivering the contents in next 1 sec ? Where is this extra 5 secs getting consumed ? Thing to worry about-- The browser might be taking lot of time in estimating and rendering the tables!

如何优化表? 如果你使用表格,我建议,总是定义单元格的宽度。这并不能保证浏览器会盲目地只取这个宽度,但会对浏览器决定初始宽度有很大的帮助。

但是,最后,div是CSS可以被浏览器缓存的好方法;而表没有缓存!

1:是的,你的用户很关心。如果他们使用屏幕阅读器,它就会丢失。如果我使用任何其他试图从页面中提取信息的工具,遇到不用于表示表格数据的表是一种误导。

div或span用于分隔内容是可以接受的,因为这正是那些元素的含义。当我,一个搜索引擎,一个屏幕阅读器或其他任何东西,遇到一个表格元素,我们期望这意味着“以下是表格数据,表示在一个表中”。当我们遇到div时,我们期望“这是一个用于将内容划分为单独部分或区域的元素。

2 .可读性:错误。如果所有的表示代码都是css,我可以阅读html,我将理解页面的内容。或者我可以阅读css和理解的表示。如果html中的所有内容都是混杂在一起的,那么在我甚至可以看到什么是内容,什么不是内容之前,我必须在脑海中剔除所有与表示相关的部分。 此外,我害怕遇到一个不懂css的web开发人员,所以我真的不认为这是一个问题。

3:表比较慢:是的,它们比较慢。原因很简单:在呈现表之前,必须对表进行完整的解析,包括其内容。可以在遇到div时呈现它,甚至在它的内容被解析之前。这意味着div会在页面加载完成之前显示出来。

还有一个好处是,表格更加脆弱,在不同的浏览器中呈现的效果并不总是一样的,不同的字体和字体大小以及所有其他可能导致布局变化的因素。表格是一种很好的方法,可以确保你的网站在某些浏览器中会偏离一两个像素,当用户改变字体大小或以任何其他方式改变设置时,它不会很好地缩放。

Of course #1 is the big one. A lot of tools and applications depend on the semantic meaning of a webpage. The usual example is screen-readers for visually impaired users. If you're a web developer, you'll find that many large companies who may otherwise hire you to work on a site, require that the site is accessible even in this case. Which means you have to think about the semantic meaning of your html. With the semantic web, or more relevantly, microformats, rss readers and other tools, your page content is no longer viewed exclusively through a browser.

The issue of strictly separating presentation and content strikes me as roughly analogous to separating header files from implementation files in C++. It makes sense, but it can also be a pain. Witness Java and C# where classes are defined in a single source file. The authors of the newer languages noticed something that was causing programmers headaches and they got rid of it. That seems to be the gist of this discussion. One side is saying CSS is too difficult, the other side is saying one must become a CSS master.

对于简单的布局问题,为什么不改变表示必须完全独立的规则呢?一个新的标签(或者一些div标签的扩展)可以让我们直接在HTML中控制显示?毕竟,我们不是已经将表示泄露到HTML中了吗?看看h1, h2, h6。我们都知道这些控制表示。

阅读代码(HTML就是代码)的能力非常重要。专家们往往忽略了使编程环境尽可能为大众所接受的重要性。认为只有专业程序员才重要是非常短视的。

因为维护一个使用表格的网站是非常困难的,并且需要更长的编码时间。如果你害怕漂浮的潜水器,那就去上一门潜水课吧。它们并不难理解,而且它们的效率大约是前者的100倍,麻烦也少了100万倍(除非你不理解它们——但是,嘿,欢迎来到计算机的世界)。

任何考虑用表格做布局的人最好不要指望我来维护它。这是渲染网站最落后的方式。感谢上帝,我们现在有了更好的选择。我永远不会回去。

有些人可能没有意识到使用现代工具创建一个网站所带来的时间和精力的好处,这很可怕。